This is the recent traffic on the #SPF-council IRC channel on irc.pobox.com. Anyone may join the channel, but only council members can talk.
If you do not have access to IRC, you may view the recent traffic at: http://www.schlitt.net/spf/spf-council/now/irc_log.html.
This log can be can be viewed at: http://www.schlitt.net/spf/spf-council/2004/12/15_irc_log.html.
IRC nicknames:
| csm | Chuck Mead |
| freeside | Meng Weng Wong |
| grumpy | Wayne Schlitt |
| Julian | Julian Mehnle |
| MarkK | Mark Kramer (asarian-host.net) |
| --- Tue Dec 14 22:00:44 UTC 2004 --- | ||
| 22:00 | <Julian> | freeside: ping |
| 22:01 | <Julian> | Where was freeside's calendar again? |
| 22:02 | <Julian> | If it's not supposed to be private, I guess I'm going to put a link to it up on the Council Thingy. |
| 22:02 | <grumpy> | http://ical.mac.com/WebObjects/iCal.woa/wa/default?d=1& u=mengwong&v=1&y=2004&m=11&n=fsConferences.ics |
| 22:03 | <grumpy> | I have it bookmarked under "Where in the world is Freeside San Diego" |
| 22:03 | * | grumpy leaves to see his kids for the evening |
| 22:04 | <Julian> | grumpy: Thanks for the link. |
| 22:04 | <MarkK> | good luck! |
| 22:04 | <Julian> | "good luck"? |
| 22:04 | <csm-laptop> | well if it matters cheerful carefree csm is in Columbia, Maryland this week |
| 22:06 | <Julian> | How secret is the HSARPA proposal supposed to be? |
| 22:06 | <csm-laptop> | he sent it private... is that enoug of a sign? |
| 22:07 | <Julian> | During the last council meeting, Meng said some things about it here (i.e. publicly) and I'm not sure how much of that may be repeated with a clear conscience. |
| 22:07 | <MarkK> | "good luck" to grumpy spending quality time with his kids. :) |
| 22:07 | <MarkK> | I think he was quite adamant about this being a secret |
| 22:07 | <MarkK> | and it needing to be |
| 22:08 | <Julian> | Usually, if something gets said on #spf-council, I take it as being public. But I'm trying to be cautious, so... |
| 22:10 | <Julian> | Well, I'll keep it terse for the meeting minutes. |
| 23:49 | <MarkK> | (just sent you guys some mail; spf-private could not do the verify, for some reason) |
| 23:56 | <Julian> | MarkK: Thanks for your latest message, I think it has some very valid points. |
| 23:56 | <Julian> | Why haven't _I_ thought of that? |
| 23:57 | <MarkK> | yeah, I should have thought of that earlier, too; but you know how it goes: busy, busy, busy... |
| 23:59 | <MarkK> | I mean, we're takking about BIG bucks here |
| 23:59 | <Julian> | And about democratic grey hats. |
| --- Wed Dec 15 00:00:29 UTC 2004 --- | ||
| 00:00 | <Julian> | Well, ok, I can deal with the latter. |
| 00:00 | <MarkK> | grey hats? |
| 00:00 | <Julian> | white hats, black hats, don't you know those? |
| 00:01 | <MarkK> | no, not really :) |
| 00:01 | <Julian> | Terms from the spam fighting world. |
| 00:01 | <Julian> | SpamCop = white hat, for instance. |
| 00:01 | <Julian> | Spammers and spam supporting ISPs = black hats. |
| 00:01 | <MarkK> | Ok, now I can place it |
| 00:01 | <MarkK> | thanks |
| 00:02 | <Julian> | Working for HSA is fine for me if it means fighting e-mail spam/forgery. |
| 00:02 | <Julian> | Working for them doesn't automatically imply selling one's soul. ;-) |
| 00:03 | <MarkK> | Nope; I just relized I never really thought about the actual consequences/liabiliuty issue beforehand; which I should have. |
| 00:03 | <Julian> | But you have a very good point when asking about "what sort of liability exists for us". |
| 00:05 | <MarkK> | Meng will know |
| 00:15 | <freeside> | mooo. |
| 00:15 | * | freeside makes something up |
| 00:57 | <Julian> | csm-laptop: When you suggested that a press release should be authored by the ED and the Chair, did you mean Chair or Secretary? I'm asking because the meeting agenda said "Executive Director / Secretary". |
| 01:02 | <csm-laptop> | Well... originally I had thought it should be the ED/Secretary but as I recall Meng suggested I do it or something anyway... I am more than willing to do it... I should probably have something drafted by end of day thursday unless someone wants to step up and beat me to it |
| 01:03 | <csm-laptop> | the key is getting it into the press but I think I can make this happpen through my company or through a few other means I have available |
| 01:03 | <Julian> | Ok. |
| 01:03 | <freeside> | purl, 12 * 14 |
| 01:04 | <Julian> | I asked with regard to the meeting minutes which I'll post in about 2 minutes. |
| 01:09 | <Julian> | Alright, the meeting minutes got quite lengthy this time: http://spf.mehnle.net/Council_Meeting/2004-12-11 |