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members can talk.
| --- Sun Dec 19 13:04:59 UTC 2004 --- |
| 13:04 | <freeside> | mooo. |
| 13:07 | <Julian> | moo, too. |
| 13:44 | <Julian> | grumpy: Can I have 10min of your time? |
| 13:54 | <grumpy> | Julian: I'm here now. what's up? |
| 13:54 | <freeside> | mooo. |
| 14:07 | <Julian> | grumpy: Ok, I'm back now, too. |
| 14:08 | <Julian> | grumpy: Can you give me a quick overview of what issues are still outstanding and what needs to be done to get the SPFv1 draft finished? Oh, and what about MarkL? |
| 14:09 | <Julian> | I think it would be useful to set up an official TODO list for the SPFv1 draft. |
| 14:26 | <grumpy> | As far as MarkL, I have not talked with him that much. I sent him email (cc'ed to spf-private) and got a reply back, but I never got a reply back from a second message I sent. |
| 14:27 | <grumpy> | As far as an SPFv1 draft, we (the council) still haven't said who should be the author(s), what spec should be the basis to work from, etc. |
| 14:28 | <grumpy> | If we start with draft-200406, I think we have a *lot* of editing to do, to make it as well written as draft-lentczner-spf-00 or draft-schlitt-spf-00 |
| 14:28 | <Julian> | I thought we already had a silent agreement to start from your draft, not MarkL's. |
| 14:29 | <grumpy> | maybe |
| 14:29 | <grumpy> | it hasn't been made that clear to me |
| 14:29 | <Julian> | If it is just formal issues that are the current barriers, we should take care of them ASAP. |
| 14:29 | <grumpy> | In order to get my draft reading, I need to do some stuff on things like the Received-SPF headers |
| 14:30 | <Julian> | (And I'm not saying that because of Frank Ellermann's impatient distrust statement.) |
| 14:30 | <grumpy> | however, there are a bunch of other "controversial" things I made to my draft, such as removal of unknown mechanisms, zone cuts, strict syntax checking, etc. |
| 14:31 | * | grumpy hasn't read Frank's latest.... |
| 14:31 | <Julian> | Well, then let's discuss those controversial things on the council list. |
| 14:31 | <grumpy> | Ok |
| 14:31 | <Julian> | I want to compile an official TODO list for the SPFv1 spec. |
| 14:31 | <Julian> | Let's do that first. |
| 14:32 | <Julian> | brb |
| 14:42 | <grumpy> | other "controversial" subjects include: using TXT too much for the likes of the IETF folks (e.g. in examples), |
| 14:42 | <grumpy> | process limits |
| 14:42 | <grumpy> | (and how they need to be checked) |
| 14:44 | <grumpy> | unknown % escapes are syntax errors. (creating correct ABNF to support the previous semantics turned out to be a real pain) |
| 14:44 | <grumpy> | Unknown macro variables are syntax errors |
| 14:59 | <Julian> | Too bad we had to defer the meeting. grrr. |
| 15:05 | <Julian_> | Julian: Die! |
| 15:35 | <Julian> | csm: You just wrote on spf-discuss: "But the draft *IS* being worked on." -- In what way? |
| 15:37 | <Julian> | I'm not questioning that it is being worked on. I just think it would be good for the council to report on its activities if the community appears to have misconceptions. |
| 15:41 | <csm> | -----> #spf |
| 17:06 | <Julian> | csm: Please don't call it "SPF Leadership Council". |
| 17:06 | <csm> | what should I call it? |
| 17:06 | <grumpy> | yeah, I think we changed the name last meeting |
| 17:06 | <grumpy> | "SPF council" |
| 17:06 | <Julian> | "SPF Council", as agreed on? |
| 17:07 | <csm> | ah yes... so it shall be |
| 17:07 | <grumpy> | csm: can you get this PR out where google news and such can find it? |
| 17:07 | <grumpy> | prnewswire or similar? |
| 17:08 | <csm> | yes... I believe I can |
| 17:08 | <grumpy> | cool |
| 17:08 | <csm> | as it happens I am employed by one of the largest OSS companies in the world ;-) |
| 17:09 | <grumpy> | VOTING CLOSED AT 09:00 GMT TUESDAY 30th November 2004 |
| 17:09 | <grumpy> | (see http://www.spfvote.idimo.com |
| 17:09 | <grumpy> | the vote wasn't certified until later, I don't remember that date |
| 17:09 | <Julian> | Let me see when the results were declared final. |
| 17:12 | <Julian> | Found it. |