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IRC nicknames:
csmChuck Mead
freesideMeng Weng Wong
grumpyWayne Schlitt
JulianJulian Mehnle
MarkKMark Kramer (asarian-host.net)

--- Wed Mar 23 00:00:18 UTC 2005 ---
00:00<MarkK>yeah, surprisingly low, actually
00:00<MarkK>I had guess in the hundreds of thousands a day
00:00<Julian>freeside: One more question:
00:00<freeside>nah, we know users don't read 550s
00:00<Julian>(MarkK: Remember, why.html is only for failures.)
00:01<Julian>6. Independent.
00:01<Julian>The site must not depend heavily on the goodwill of individual
00:01<Julian>persons. That is, regular backups must be made and the site's domain
00:01<Julian>must be owned by the project or a person trusted by the project.
00:01<MarkK>yes and then only for when ppl actually click on it; still
00:01<Julian>freeside: Can we have some kind of external backup of the site?
00:01<freeside>i'll give you a tarball if you want.
00:01<Julian>freeside: Just as a matter of principle.
00:02<Julian>freeside: Ok, let's work out the details separately, too.
00:02<freeside>ok. i gotta go soon.
00:02<Julian>Ok, the next two items would have been two motions, but we don't have a quorum:
00:02<Julian>"Motion: Adopt the 'Webmasters' proposal", "Motion: Adopt the 'Domains' proposal"
00:03<MarkK>geez, that is only about 400 hits per day :) (if I got my math right)
00:03<Julian><http://archives.listbox.com/spf-discuss@v2.listbox.com/200503/0162.html>
00:03<MarkK>seconded
00:03<Julian>MarkK: We don't have a quorum,
00:03<Julian>So voting is pointless.
00:03<MarkK>sigh; you're right
00:04<MarkK>I was being too enthusiastic :)
00:04<Julian>Please let's use freeside's remaining time to find a date for the next meeting.
00:04<MarkK>yes
00:04<freeside>next wed might be ok
00:04<Julian>Uh, that's a bit far away.
00:04<freeside>er, ok
00:04<Julian>But please mark that in your calendar, so we have a fallback date.
00:05<freeside>i'm busy tomorrow night but thursday should be ok
00:05<Julian>Thursday 03-24 22:00 UTC?
00:05<freeside>ok
00:05<Julian>MarkK?
00:05<MarkK>ok
00:06<MarkK>I'll be there
00:06<freeside>i might be a few minutes late, will be getting out of another meeting that ends at that time.
00:06<Julian>Alright, so we'll try to have a meeting on Thursday 03-24 22:00 UTC, or on Wednesday 03-30 22:00 UTC if that fails.
00:06<Julian>freeside: 22:30 UTC better?
00:06<freeside>yeah.
00:06<Julian>But on Wednesday, 22:00 is ok?
00:06<freeside>should be
00:06<Julian>Ok.
00:06<MarkK>ok, I'll be there
00:07<Julian>freeside: Do you still have time for a few minutes?
00:08<Julian>Nah, forget it. It's already past 00:00 UTC.
00:08<Julian>Motion: Adjourn until 2005-03-24 22:30 UTC or 2005-03-30 22:00 UTC.
00:09<MarkK>so noted :)
00:09<Julian>I take that as a second.
00:09<Julian>Any objections?
00:10<freeside>heh
00:10<Julian>Alright, none. So we're adjourned.
00:10<freeside>see you guys on thursday.
00:10<MarkK>yep
00:10<Julian>Ok.
00:11<Julian>Please try to show up everyone!
00:11<Julian>Thank you for today's meeting.
00:11<Julian>What a mess, actually.
00:11<MarkK>at least we got an important issue on the table
00:12<Julian>Yes, the PR.
00:12<Julian>Also, parts of the website issue.
00:12<MarkK>I meant the website :)
00:12<MarkK>the PR is important too
00:12<MarkK>mess? how?
00:13<Julian>Well, grumpy wasn't here, and we lost quorum in the middle of the meeting.
00:13<Julian>Also, the meeting was announced for tomorrow, after which Meng explained that he couldn't make it tomorrow.
00:13<MarkK>yes, that was sad; I'd liked to have spoken with wayne on the -01 version of his draft, too
00:14<Julian>Let's hope he have another chance on Thu.
00:14<Julian>s/he/we/
00:15<MarkK>we may need to (re)address the DNS queries issues on discuss; wayne would be ideally suited for that
00:15<MarkK>Our input has been requested, that is; and giving wayne a first shot at it seems to make sense
00:16<Julian>I'm a bit behind on spf-discuss currently, too.
00:17<MarkK>meanwhile, back at the ranch, I think I need to head out, bed-wards, that is :)
00:17<Julian>Good idea. /me too.
00:17<MarkK>goodnight
00:17<Julian>'night.
16:41<Julian>grumpy: You were absent during yesterday's meeting, which is excusable as the meeting had really been announced for today. But we put the press release <http://spf.mehnle.net/Press_Release/2005-03-23> to vote anyway. Would you like to declare an "absentee vote" for the record?

This report was generated at Wed Mar 23 23:59:59 UTC 2005.