This is the recent traffic on the #SPF-council IRC channel on irc.pobox.com. Anyone may join the channel, but only council members can talk.
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This log can be can be viewed at: http://www.schlitt.net/spf/spf-council/2005/06/13_irc_log.html.
IRC nicknames:
| csm | Chuck Mead |
| freeside | Meng Weng Wong |
| grumpy | Wayne Schlitt |
| Julian | Julian Mehnle |
| MarkK | Mark Kramer (asarian-host.net) |
| --- Mon Jun 13 20:33:04 UTC 2005 --- | ||
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> according to Ted Hardie, Meng may not be talking with us, but Meng is talking with Ted. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> "If you would prefer, however, we are prepared to consider a resurrected draft-lentczner-spf in its place." -- He must be joking, but I fear he means it seriously. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> "I have confirmed with Mark and Meng that their draft was prepared for that role" -- What role? Being a suitable basis for Sender-ID? Or what?? |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <csm-laptop> this is just about enough I think |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> I think it is time to submit an article to slashdot... |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> Ok, I think we should go plan B. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <csm-laptop> plan B is? |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | * grumpy doesn't know what the heck "plan B" is |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | * grumpy points @ csm |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> grumpy: Would you be willing to write such an article? I agree that it would be a good idea, but I don't have the time to do it at the moment. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> yes, I would be willing to write such an article. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> did you see my response to Ted yet? |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <csm-laptop> amazing at the end of this that we find out that Meng and Mark are willing to ressurect their long dead and quite stale version of this |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> Plan B is reaffirming our own authority over the SPF standard and subliminally preparing to declare the IETF as irrelevant wrt SPF in case a "resurrected draft-lentczner-spf" surfaces... |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <csm-laptop> but we can't get either one of them to talk to us |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> indeed. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> I think we need to reaffirm our authority, and get backup from the community. That's great stuff for a new press release. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> I guess we now know what Meng's two hour scheduled talk with MarkL was about, and why he thought it was so much more important that talking with us about the SPF-classic I-D. |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> What I don't get is what Meng's investment in his deal with MS/MarkL is... |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> Why does he hate us so much? |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <grumpy> hahahaha |
| 20:33 | <Julian> | <Julian> ...or, the draft we produced? |
| 20:34 | <Julian> | grumpy: Your reply to Ted Hardie is good. |
| 20:35 | <Julian> | More cool-headed than I would have been... |
| 20:35 | <grumpy> | Thanks. |
| 20:36 | <grumpy> | I'm not sure if I can keep any selfcontrol over the slashdot story. |
| 20:37 | <Julian> | Try to be objective. |
| 20:37 | <csm-laptop> | let me edit your story |
| 20:37 | <csm-laptop> | I have self control when writing |
| 20:37 | <csm-laptop> | :-) |