This is the recent traffic on the #SPF-council IRC channel on irc.pobox.com. Anyone may join the channel, but only council members can talk.

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IRC nicknames:
freesideMeng Weng Wong
gconnorGreg Connor
grumpyWayne Schlitt
JulianJulian Mehnle
MarkKMark Kramer (asarian-host.net)

--- Fri Aug 5 20:53:20 UTC 2005 ---
20:53<gconnor>hey team
--- Fri Aug 19 03:51:49 UTC 2005 ---
03:51<freeside>The IMAP server b
03:51<freeside>ahem.
03:51<freeside>"Gregory Morawietz" <gregory@singlepointoc.com> needs consulting help. he is in san jose.
03:52<freeside>grumpy, can you please contact him?
03:52<freeside>this request was from a few weeks ago. sorry.
03:52<freeside>haven't been able to get to it until now.
--- Mon Sep 5 23:00:13 UTC 2005 ---
23:00<Julian>Meow.
23:00<MarkK>moo
23:01<MarkK>Good evening; seems we miss greg, right?
23:01<Julian>Yeah...
23:06<Julian>Perhaps he thinks the meeting is obsolete since he has now cast his vote by e-mail.
23:07<MarkK>Could very well be
23:08<MarkK>Though it is high time for a meeting anyway
23:10<MarkK>Has the chair any thoughts on how long we should wait?
23:20<MarkK>Perhaps the chair is not here, either :)
23:20<Julian>LOL
23:21<Julian>Perhaps they have all mixed up the time of the day.
23:21<MarkK>We distinctly said 2300 UTC
23:21<Julian>Yeah...
23:28<Julian>Doobeedoo...
23:29<MarkK>La-di-da
23:29<Julian>Let's hope the others are ok.
23:29<Julian>I'll have to go soon.
23:29<MarkK>Yeah; it started at 1 AM to begin with
23:40*grumpy arrives home
23:40<grumpy>ugh, I thought I scheduled the meeting for tomorrow
23:41*grumpy blushes badly
23:41<grumpy>I'm very sorry
23:41<MarkK>welcome back
23:41<grumpy>thanks
23:41<grumpy>I haven't caught up on email yet.
23:41<grumpy>today is a holiday in the US. (We celibrate Labor Day today, rather than May 1)
23:42<grumpy>Anyway, I was gone most of the day with my kids.
23:42<Julian>Well, I can meet tomorrow, too.
23:42<MarkK>so can I
23:42<MarkK>greg isn't here, either, so...
23:42<grumpy>you are right, since Greg voted, I don't think we need to discuss the domain name
23:43<grumpy>the only other thing that I can think of is closing down the private comittee that csm set up back in 2004.
23:43<MarkK>we really ought to get together and discuss the microsoft thing and such, though
23:44<grumpy>I don't think it ever produced any results, and I don't think csm is ever going to do any more with it.
23:44<MarkK>our apeal seems to gave stirred up some dust, it seems
23:44<grumpy>MarkK: what in particular should we discuss?
23:47<MarkK>Well, in the breoadest sense, I think we need to strategize on how to deal with MS
23:48<grumpy>Well, I think we should work with them where we can, and be willing to agree to disagree on other things.
23:48<MarkK>Besides, I really think the council should meet ever so often to simply discuss the things that are going on
23:48<grumpy>I don't think we have any official "relationship" with MS, nor do I think such a relationship with *MS* is possible.
23:48<grumpy>we are individuals.
23:48<grumpy>who happen to work at various companies.
23:48<grumpy>and are volunteering to do things
23:49<MarkK>nope, to official relationshi[
23:49<grumpy>you may well be right that we need to get together to discuss things periodically.
23:51<grumpy>we have done a good job of cleaning a lot of stuff off our plate.
23:52<MarkK>Are all things with James cleared up now? I thought they were; just makong sure, thoug
23:52<grumpy>to the best of my knowledge, things are cleared up with JamesC.
23:53<MarkK>good :)
23:53<grumpy>old.openspf.org and www.old.openspf.org point to his websites
23:53<grumpy>I haven't ruled on the openspf.org domain name yet, but I can do that ASAP
23:53<Julian><grumpy> "Well, I think we should work with them where we can, and be willing to agree to disagree on other things." -- Agreed.
23:54<grumpy>and then Julian and/or I need to enable a bunch of redirects so that URLs to the old websites don't break.
23:54<MarkK>Including the 'why' URL?
23:54<grumpy>Julian: I'm just reviewing some of the stuff on #spf, but I'll talk about it here.
23:54<grumpy>MarkK: did JamesC's old website have a why.html URL?
23:55<Julian>No.
23:55<MarkK>no; I was referrring to the 'why' page on spf.pobox
23:55<Julian>Yeah.
23:55<grumpy>I thought it was mostly the SenderID position thing and his little website with links to his projects.
23:56<grumpy>Anyway, re stuff on #spf, openspf.org and www.openspf.org have pointed to JamesC's website since James initi8ally switched the primary NS to my box.
23:56<grumpy>nothing has changed.
23:56<Julian>grumpy: Let's compile a list of http://openspf.org URL paths that need to be set up as "Redirect"s.
23:56<Julian>...but let's compile it by mail. I need to be gone in a few minutes.
23:56<grumpy>as far as www.openspf.org, I'm pretty sure that the council discussed it and approved it being www.old.openspf.org
23:56<grumpy>Julian: ok
23:56<Julian>"nothing has changed" -- Oh, ok, then I was confused.
23:56<MarkK>Is he still doing his srs project? Or rather, wasn't Shevek doing a whole new srs body? (apart from libsrs2)
23:57<Julian>So, do we want to meet in ~24h?
23:57<grumpy>to the best of my knowledge, JamesC is still doing libspf/libsrs, and Shevek is still doing libspf2/libsrs2
23:57<Julian>...~23h, I mean...
23:57<MarkK>sure
23:57<grumpy>(with various others helping out on both sets of projects.)
23:57<MarkK>good
23:58<grumpy>Julian: sure
23:59<grumpy>Again, sorry about spacing off the meeting. Due to the holiday, this seemed like Sunday to me. :-<
23:59<Julian>No problem.

This report was generated at Mon Sep 5 23:59:59 UTC 2005.